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    Trump Pleads 5th

    Neither President Donald Trump nor his attorneys will participate in Wednesday's House Judiciary Committee impeachment hearing, they said late Sunday.

    In a letter to Chairman Jerrold Nadler, White House counsel to the President Pat Cipollone said, "We cannot fairly be expected to participate in a hearing while the witnesses are yet to be named and while it remains unclear whether the Judiciary Committee will afford the President a fair process through additional hearings. More importantly, an invitation to an academic discussion with law professors does not begin to provide the President with an semblance of a fair process. Accordingly, under the current circumstances, we do not intend to participate in your Wednesday hearing."

    Ya know my personal take is this: When a bank robber is apprehended they always say, "[Y]ou mean I have to give the money back?"

    Nevertheless once Donald Trump dies our Flag will be flown at half mast.
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    no one shocked at this news.

    Trump would hang himself in the first 3 minutes of testifying.

    and no one cares about the flag's position if he dies. there would simply be dancing in the streets...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oxtox View Post
    and no one cares about the flag's position if he dies. there would simply be dancing in the streets...
    Agree and hence the mock, mock, mocking
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    Quote Originally Posted by troutmd View Post
    Nevertheless once Donald Trump dies our Flag will be flown at half mast.
    Well, he and the GOP have made every attempt to kill the Country … so, with his death, so goes that attempt … so, half mast would make sense.
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    It would have shocked me if Trump DIDN'T plead the 5th.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oxtox View Post
    Trump would hang himself in the first 3 minutes of testifying.
    He does not have to, but he could still send lawyers to do things.

    This is a pretty clear signal he is going with "illegitimate witch hunt" as his defense. Which is all he really has anyway. Any participation undercuts that defense, even sending lawyers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davesupra View Post
    Trump should be bound with a rock and tossed in a deep pool of water. If he floats, he is surely guilty of something or another...
    Can we please? ... it's the only way he can for sure prove his innocence. If he doesn't float after an hour, that should prove his innocence.

    With that said, we may need a couple hundred pounds of rock to make it work ... his "240" pound, svelte figure looks an awful lot like a flotation device.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davesupra View Post
    Trump should be bound with a rock and tossed in a deep pool of water. If he floats, he is surely guilty of something or another...
    While that would be entertaining, it's a bit dramatic and senseless.

    How about Trump just place his hand on the Bible (his favorite book) and answer questions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tlg View Post
    While that would be entertaining, it's a bit dramatic and senseless.

    How about Trump just place his hand on the Bible (his favorite book) and answer questions.
    His tiny little hand would catch fire.

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    ^^^^^^

    this
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    Quote Originally Posted by davesupra View Post
    Trump should be bound with a rock and tossed in a deep pool of water. If he floats, he is surely guilty of something or another...
    I'm ok with that. Let's give it a try.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davesupra View Post
    Trump should be bound with a rock and tossed in a deep pool of water. If he floats, he is surely guilty of something or another...

    Seems extreme. Why don't we just have him testify about what he's done?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rideit View Post
    Democrats in Congress are getting things done. Trump and Republicans are just ignoring them.
    House Democrats are passing bills at a rapid pace, while Trump complains they’re “getting nothing done.”

    Trump is objectively wrong; House Democrats haven’t been squandering time. In addition to their investigations, they’ve been passing legislation at a rapid clip. In all, the House has taken up 51 bills, resolutions, and suspensions since January — 49 of which they’ve passed. This includes a slate of bills to attempt to end the longest government shutdown in history, the result of a protracted fight between Trump and Congress over border wall funding.

    Ironically, over the past two weeks, the House has passed bills to address most of the issues Trump mentioned in his tweet. They recently passed a bill to lower prescription drug prices, and another one to protect preexisting conditions. The House also passed nine bills on veterans issues this week alone, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi noted at her weekly press conference. On Thursday, Democrats tried to present Trump their infrastructure plan before he walked out of their meeting.

    “The Senate is the graveyard where bills that pass in the Congress, that have bipartisan support in the country, go to die,” Pelosi said at a recent press conference.

    Little is happening in Congress, but it’s not for Democrats’ lack of trying
    Despite Trump’s declaration that it’s impossible for Democrats to “investigate and legislate at the same time,” House Democrats have been doing a lot of legislating over the past few months.

    Much of this agenda is sitting in the Senate. The few things House Democrats and Senate Republicans have agreed on: disaster relief aid, reopening the government after the shutdown, the resolution to end US involvement in the Yemen war, a bill to protect public lands, and a resolution disapproving of Trump’s use of emergency powers.

    But on major policy issues — like health care and infrastructure, or even bipartisan ones like net neutrality or the Equal Pay Act — Democrats’ bills are continuing to languish in the Senate.

    Here’s a list of bills the House has passed since January

    Health care
    HR 259 — Medicaid Extenders Act of 2019
    House Resolution 271 — Condemning the Trump Administration’s Legal Campaign to Take Away Americans’ Health Care
    HR 986 — Protecting Americans with Preexisting Conditions Act of 2019
    HR 987 — Strengthening Health Care and Lowering Prescription Drug Costs Act
    HR 1520, the Purple Book Continuity Act (bill aimed at lowering the cost of prescription drugs)
    HR 1503, the Orange Book Transparency Act of 2019 (bill aimed at lowering the cost of prescription drugs)
    Civil rights
    HR 1 — For the People Act of 2019
    HR 5 — Equality Act
    HR 7 — Paycheck Fairness Act
    HR 124 — Expressing opposition to banning service in the Armed Forces by openly transgender individuals
    Gun control
    HR 8 — Bipartisan Background Checks Act of 2019
    HR 1112 — Enhanced Background Checks Act of 2019
    Environment
    HR 9 — Climate Action Now Act
    HR 1331 — Local Water Protection Act
    S 47 — National Resources Management Act
    HR 2578 — National Flood Insurance Program Extension Act of 2019
    Military/foreign affairs
    HR 840 — Veterans’ Access to Child Care Act
    HJ Res. 37 — Directing the removal of United States Armed Forces from hostilities in the Republic of Yemen that have not been authorized by Congress
    SJ Res. 7 — To direct the removal of United States Armed Forces from hostilities in the Republic of Yemen that have not been authorized by Congress
    HR 31 — Caesar Syria Civilian Protection Act of 2019
    HJ Res. 30 — Disapproving the President’s proposal to take an action relating to the application of certain sanctions with respect to the Russian Federation
    Mueller report
    H.Con.Res. 24 — Expressing the sense of Congress that the report of Special Counsel Mueller should be made available to the public and to Congress.
    Other legislation
    HR 1585 — Violence Against Women Reauthorization Act of 2019
    HR 1500 — Consumers First Act
    HR 1994 — SECURE Act
    HR 1644 — Save the Internet Act of 2019
    HR 2157 — Supplemental Appropriations Act, 2019
    HR 269 — Pandemic and All-Hazards Preparedness and Advancing Innovation Act of 2019
    HR 251 — Chemical Facility Anti-Terrorism Standards Program Extension Act
    S 24 — Government Employee Fair Treatment Act of 2019
    HR 430 — TANF Extension Act of 2019
    Concurring in the Senate Amendments to HR 251 — Chemical Facility Anti-Terrorism Standard Program Extension Act
    HR 790 — Federal Civilian Workforce Pay Raise Fairness Act of 2019
    HJ Res. 46 — Relating to a national emergency declared by the President on February 15, 2019
    H Res. 183 — Condemning anti-Semitism as hateful expressions of intolerance that are contradictory to the values and aspirations that define the people of the United States and condemning anti-Muslim discrimination and bigotry against minorities as hateful expressions of intolerance that are contrary to the values and aspirations of the United States, as amended
    H Res. 194 — Rule Providing for Consideration of H.R. 1644 and H.R. 2021
    HR 2480 — Child Abuse Prevention and Treatment Act
    HR 375 — To amend the Indian Reorganization Act of 1934 to reaffirm the authority of the Secretary of the Interior to take land into trust for Indian Tribes (also known as the “Carcieri Fix”)
    Votes to end the government shutdown
    HR 21 — Making appropriations for the fiscal year ending September 30, 2019, and for other purposes
    HJ Res. 1 — Making further continuing appropriations for the Department of Homeland Security for fiscal year 2019, and for other purposes
    HR 265 — Agriculture, Rural Development, Food and Drug Administration, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2019
    HR 267 — Transportation, Housing and Urban Development, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2019
    HR 266 — Department of the Interior, Environment, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2019
    HR 268 — Disaster Supplemental Appropriations Act, 2019 (Disaster Supplemental and short-term continuing resolution through Feb. 8)
    HR 264 — Financial Services and General Government Appropriations Act
    HJ Res. 28 — Further Additional Continuing Appropriations Act, 2019 (Short-term continuing resolution through Feb. 28)
    HR 648 — Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2019 (Six conferenced bills minibus)
    HJ Res. 31 — Making further continuing appropriations for the Department of Homeland Security for fiscal year 2019 (Short-term homeland continuing resolution through Feb. 28)
    Conference Report to Accompany HJ Res 31 – Making consolidated appropriations for the fiscal year ending September 30, 2019, and for other purposes



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    Trump validating this Democrat clown circus is the last thing he should do. Let the Dems sit there and play with themselves, they won't have a single accomplishment to run on in 2020.
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    ^^^^^^^
    this

    QUESTION: Why is the mainstream media not broadcasting this Dem Do Something daily instead of giving free media to the GOP do nothings?
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    Quote Originally Posted by troutmd View Post
    QUESTION: Why is the mainstream media not broadcasting this Dem Do Something daily instead of giving free media to the GOP do nothings?
    Because it doesn't sell ... news agencies are not "Non-Profit" organizations ... they are in the business of both airing the news, AND, making money.

    If those talking points actually "Sold" to the American public, they would be on every network over and over and over and over.

    With that said ... the general public has a maximum of a two week attention span, so any news cycle that gets started has a max life of two weeks, generally shorter. Trump and the GOP take full advantage of this, knowing if they throw something new out there every 1-2 weeks, people will forget about the past activities they conducted making it easier and easier to get away with future activities.

    Distract and confuse the facts long enough people don't remember them, rinse and repeat. Throwing actual facts out there over and over would just get people to stop believing them at this point because they would get sick of hearing the truth and it would make the lies more believable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davesupra View Post
    If you want to call the laughable bills that the Dems have got through the house "accomplishments" have at it. I wouldn't say that writing a bill that never becomes law is an accomplishment ...
    I agree --- once a person thinks about it, the GOP claiming they are governing while doing nothing really is not an accomplishment worthy of supporting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davesupra View Post
    Have you watched any news lately? it's been almost entirely 24/7 Dems and their "impeachment". They have devoted entire days to this foolishness. .
    How is getting rid of a liar, a con, a rapist, a serial philanderer, a tax cheat, and a bad, venal example of humanity ‘foolishness’?

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    Quote Originally Posted by davesupra View Post
    Have you watched any news lately? it's been almost entirely 24/7 Dems and their "impeachment". They have devoted entire days to this foolishness. It has slowed slightly now that they see that it's hurting the Dems and they don't know what to do.

    If you want to call the laughable bills that the Dems have got through the house "accomplishments" have at it. I wouldn't say that writing a bill that never becomes law is an accomplishment, but I guess opinions vary. There may be a couple that are worthy of proceeding to the senate, but good luck with that.

    It's like calling the cops on your neighbor for having a party, and then asking the neighbor for a beer after the cops leave.
    This analogy makes absolutely no sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxl View Post
    Seems extreme. Why don't we just have him testify about what he's done?

    Nope. Only Democrats have to do this. Republicans are exempt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davesupra View Post
    William Stoughton would be proud.

    As would Joseph Goebbels of you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lombard View Post
    This analogy makes absolutely no sense.
    that's dave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lombard View Post
    This analogy makes absolutely no sense.
    A swing and a miss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davesupra View Post
    Have you watched any news lately? it's been almost entirely 24/7 Dems and their "impeachment". They have devoted entire days to this foolishness. It has slowed slightly now that they see that it's hurting the Dems and they don't know what to do.
    It "slowed slightly"? You do know the first phase is over don't you?

    70% of Americans agree that Trump did something wrong
    57% want him impeached, up from 29%.

    How exactly is this "hurting the Dems"? Do you still think this will not make it out of the house?
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