• 12-15-2011
    TerminatorX91
    US citizen voters, now that you can be disappeared...
    US citizen voters, now that you can be disappeared by the US federal government, I wonder how many of you will mainly continue to comply with guiding or confining choices between the lesser of two evils that the powers behind the Democratic and Republican parties offer as your representatives in government?





    I wonder whether this thread will have less participation than OES's "Vision and hearing test". I have a suspicion.
  • 12-15-2011
    Snakebit
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TerminatorX91 View Post
    US citizen voters, now that you can be disappeared by the US federal government, I wonder how many of you will mainly continue to comply with guiding or confining choices between the lesser of two evils that the powers behind the Democratic and Republican parties offer as your representatives in government?

    First targets will likely be aliens who live among us and have done their best to foster discontent and rebellion.
  • 12-15-2011
    TerminatorX91
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Snakebit View Post
    First targets will likely be aliens who live among us and have done their best to foster discontent and rebellion.

    Really all the more reason why I think if getting US citizenship were a stock it's value just plummeted. Once you US citizens are disappeared by the US government then you're out absolutely out of potential options.
  • 12-15-2011
    Bocephus Jones II
    reminds me of this song...though he was talking about brutal South American regimes at the time...

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  • 12-15-2011
    ziscwg
    The ACLU has been rather quiet on this as far as I can tell. Is that because George W isn't doing this?
  • 12-15-2011
    TerminatorX91
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bocephus Jones II View Post
    reminds me of this song...though he was talking about brutal South American regimes at the time...

    Are you reading my mind or did you read this too?

    There Is Only One Issue In America

    Steven Van Zandt


    I was obsessed with politics in the '80s. I've recovered and I'm feeling much better now thank you.

    By the time I realized, as interesting as it was, I'd better stop this stuff and try to earn a living, I had discovered many of our social problems and quality of life issues could be traced to the same political source: our corrupt-by-definition electoral system. The solution to the problem was as easy to discover as the cause: The elimination of all private finance in the electoral process.

    I was working doing most of my research in the area of our foreign policy since WWll, whatever fell under the umbrella of international liberation politics, but I examined and analyzed a fair amount of local issues as well.

    I wanted to know how things work? Where's the power? Who's pulling the strings?

    The economy of the world came down to the unholy trinity of guns, drugs and gasoline -- military industry, drugs (legal and illegal), and energy -- and now I would add agribusiness as the fourth controlling commodity, and always with the enabling bankers never too far out of sight making their profits far too often from wars and slave labor.

    While that readily explained the suffering of the Third World, it didn't immediately answer why in America it was possible for so many people to be unhappy with our government's decisions, both foreign and domestic, when we're supposedly living in a democracy.

    A quick analysis of our electoral process revealed the obvious answer. The simple fact is we do not live in a democracy. Certainly not the kind our Founding Fathers intended. We live in a corporate dictatorship represented by, and beholden to, no single human being you can reason with or hold responsible for anything.

    The corporation has but one obligation, which is to increase profits for its shareholders by any legal means necessary by the next fiscal quarter.

    They have no moral, patriotic, social, environmental, generational or even sustainable responsibility. They have only a short-term economic mandate and their only responsibility to society is to stay within the law to accomplish it.

    This doesn't mean corporations shouldn't exist or even that their directors are evil by their very DNA. It has been a legally acceptable basic flaw in the form of our capitalist system that allows corporations to operate without a moral compass or obligation to society -- but that's a discussion for another day.

    The law is rarely a problem because the corporations' legal obligations are pretty much designed first and foremost for their maximum profit by the legislation created by the legislators belonging to our two national political parties, both of which are wholly bought, sold and controlled by Wall Street. The banks and the corporations. In other words the game is rigged. Feel like a sucker? We all do because we all are.

    The manipulation, aided by a very willing media also owned by the corporations, has made things easier beginning with what has become the amazing Orwellian staple of every newscast, selling the public on the lie that the Dow has somehow become America's scoreboard!

    We're all hypnotized, rooting for them like they're our home team at a football game, cheering for THEIR scoreboard mindlessly forgetting WE'RE THE AWAY TEAM!!

    You think your congressman is working all day to get you a job? He may want to. He or she is probably not a bad person. They probably want to do the right thing. But they can't. Long-time Capitol Hill staff and campaign strategists tell me the average legislator spends one-third of their time (or more) every day raising money or on activities related to raising money.

    Yes, they are "elected" which creates the mass delusion of democracy to keep the masses from rioting, but congressional races are costing millions of dollars and some Senate seats are going for tens of millions each, and they're predicting well over one billion dollars for the next presidency.

    That's some democracy we've created there, isn't it?

    Of the people?

    By the people?

    For the people?

    What people?

    Democracy in America is a sick joke and the masses aren't laughing anymore.

    MORE HERE
  • 12-15-2011
    Black Bart
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ziscwg View Post
    The ACLU has been rather quiet on this as far as I can tell. Is that because George W isn't doing this?

    It's the number 1 issue on the front page of their website and there are at least 5 links to various stories about it.

    American Civil Liberties Union

    You usually only hear about them when they file a lawsuit, which they can't do over pending legislation. The Wisconsin voter ID lawsuit they filed this week was signed into law back in May.