2019 Critérium Du Dauphiné Race Thread - Spoilers Allowed
Results 1 to 25 of 25
  1. #1
    RoadBikeReview Member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Posts
    6,776

    2019 Critérium Du Dauphiné Race Thread - Spoilers Allowed

    This race should provide us with some insight as we inch toward the TdF. Looking forward to seeing who is on form.

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/races/cri...-2019/preview/

    Let’s kick this off by predicting some jersey winners. I am going with Fuglsang for the win, Bennett for the sprints, and Buchmann for the mountains classification. What say you?
    Last edited by Rashadabd; 06-08-2019 at 10:49 AM.
    Every climb has its end, for verily with difficulty there is relief...

  2. #2
    RoadBikeReview Member
    Reputation: PBL450's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    4,232
    Quote Originally Posted by Rashadabd View Post
    This race should provide us with some insight as we inch toward the TdF. Looking forward to seeing who is on form.

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/races/cri...-2019/preview/

    Let’s kick this off by predicting some jersey winners. I am going with Fuglsang for the win, Bennett for the sprints, and Buchmann for the mountains classification. What say you?
    Cool! I’m going with Woods in the mountains, Bennet (sorry to copy you) and Pinot FTW.
    To date, philosophers have merely interpreted the world in various ways. The point however is to change it.

  3. #3
    RoadBikeReview Member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Posts
    6,776
    Quote Originally Posted by PBL450 View Post
    Cool! I’m going with Woods in the mountains, Bennet (sorry to copy you) and Pinot FTW.
    No apologies needed my friend. All sound choices btw in my opinion. This should be interesting.
    Every climb has its end, for verily with difficulty there is relief...

  4. #4
    RoadBikeReview Member
    Reputation: PBL450's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    4,232
    Quote Originally Posted by Rashadabd View Post
    No apologies needed my friend. All sound choices btw in my opinion. This should be interesting.
    Bora goes 3 deep with sprinters! Amazing! I think Pinot needs this. He needs it enough to put work into his legs he shouldn’t before TdF. I’m really looking forward to this race!
    To date, philosophers have merely interpreted the world in various ways. The point however is to change it.

  5. #5
    RoadBikeReview Member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Posts
    6,776
    Quote Originally Posted by PBL450 View Post
    Bora goes 3 deep with sprinters! Amazing! I think Pinot needs this. He needs it enough to put work into his legs he shouldn’t before TdF. I’m really looking forward to this race!
    Pinot is definitely a legitimate threat with the way he has been riding, plus he's on his home turf.
    Every climb has its end, for verily with difficulty there is relief...

  6. #6
    RoadBikeReview Member
    Reputation: KoroninK's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    2,216
    Pinot has said he's there to try to win it.

    Nice stage with for EBH. Dimension Data needed that win.

  7. #7
    RoadBikeReview Member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Posts
    6,776
    Quote Originally Posted by KoroninK View Post
    Pinot has said he's there to try to win it.

    Nice stage with for EBH. Dimension Data needed that win.
    Definitely, they have not had a great season thus far. A little worried how it might impact what their sponsors do. As sad as it is to say, they should have parted ways with Cav after last season when it looked like it was headed in that direction. He costs way too much for what they are getting out of him and his pricey sprint train.
    Every climb has its end, for verily with difficulty there is relief...

  8. #8
    RoadBikeReview Member
    Reputation: KoroninK's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    2,216
    I agree about Cav. They should have. The problem is they have continually been at the bottom on the WT teams and there are ususally a couple of Pro Conti teams ahead of them. I do believe their years as a WT team are numbered.

  9. #9
    RoadBikeReview Member
    Reputation: PBL450's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    4,232
    Quote Originally Posted by KoroninK View Post
    I agree about Cav. They should have. The problem is they have continually been at the bottom on the WT teams and there are ususally a couple of Pro Conti teams ahead of them. I do believe their years as a WT team are numbered.
    And Cummings is out... Happy for DD and EBH! Shocked today to see Teuns win. I really expected the GC contenders to break off the front on one of the last two climbs? They kind of did, but they didn’t catch the breakaway duo. It been the year of the breakaway so far! The Dan Martin, Richie Porte group lost lethal time today... It has been great racing so far! Fun and exciting!
    To date, philosophers have merely interpreted the world in various ways. The point however is to change it.

  10. #10
    RoadBikeReview Member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Posts
    6,776
    Quote Originally Posted by PBL450 View Post
    And Cummings is out... Happy for DD and EBH! Shocked today to see Teuns win. I really expected the GC contenders to break off the front on one of the last two climbs? They kind of did, but they didn’t catch the breakaway duo. It been the year of the breakaway so far! The Dan Martin, Richie Porte group lost lethal time today... It has been great racing so far! Fun and exciting!
    Agreed. It typically is a fun race to watch like the TDU. Teuns definitely has the skills to win races like this. He hasn’t showed it this season until now, but he has done well in races like this in the past. I am starting to like that guy Lambrecht. He hasn’t won anything of substance yet, but I like his style. I hope he sneaks away with one soon. To me, the real racing hasn’t started yet, this is all just posturing and stretching the legs. Things are about to heated for real soon though.
    Every climb has its end, for verily with difficulty there is relief...

  11. #11
    RoadBikeReview Member
    Reputation: KoroninK's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    2,216
    Agreed. Surprising to see Teuns win, and the break stay away for the stage win.

    Yeah, there's a group of GC guys who GC is effectively over. Right now it's showing to be a good race.

  12. #12
    RoadBikeReview Member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Posts
    6,776
    I have to say, this is the best Tejay VG has looked in some time. He doesn’t look dominant or like he might be in play for a TdF podium or anything, but he looked really solid in Cali and good in the Dauphiné so far. Happy to see him back in the mix. It could be really helpful for EF with Uran coming off an injury and Martinez being out with one.
    Every climb has its end, for verily with difficulty there is relief...

  13. #13
    JSR
    JSR is offline
    RoadBikeReview Member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Posts
    1,584
    Quote Originally Posted by Rashadabd View Post
    I have to say, this is the best Tejay VG has looked in some time.
    How does he keep sucking us in? You know he has to crack on the next mountain stage.

  14. #14
    RoadBikeReview Member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Posts
    6,776
    Quote Originally Posted by JSR View Post
    How does he keep sucking us in? You know he has to crack on the next mountain stage.
    You are probably right lol. I dunno man, I swear I have given up on this guy like 5x already now, but yep I keep coming back for more. I guess it’s because their aren’t many Americans in the mix these days. Hopefully, Kuss and Powless can save us from ourselves.
    Every climb has its end, for verily with difficulty there is relief...

  15. #15
    RoadBikeReview Member
    Reputation: KoroninK's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    2,216
    Nice to see Tejay put in a good TT in a field like this. At this point I'd like to see Tejay give up on GC and become a TT specialist and/or stage hunter and help the GC riders on his team.

  16. #16
    RoadBikeReview Member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Posts
    6,776
    My goodness, Alaphilippe is so versatile. The guy can literally do just about anything on a road bike. He’s had a great season. Probably my favorite to watch right now since Sky/Ineos have turned Kwiatkowski into nothing more than a super domestique and Sagan lost his way a bit.

    https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/r...ne-2019-427215

    Oh and Dumoulin reportedly pulled out of the Dauphiné as well to nurse his injured knee and to train at altitude.
    Every climb has its end, for verily with difficulty there is relief...

  17. #17
    RoadBikeReview Member
    Reputation: KoroninK's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    2,216
    Quintana actually attacks and then loses time. Tejay got 30 seconds on Quintana. I'm not sure who that says more about right now. Tejay looks like he has a chance to finish on the podium here and Quintana is not looking good.

  18. #18
    RoadBikeReview Member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Posts
    630
    Quintana’s attack was a bit reminiscent of his performance in the 2017 Giro in that he can accelerate, get a gap but he just can’t maintain it. He seems to have lost his stamina. It’s a bid sad but I don’t think he’ll ever fulfill his early promise. Hope I’m wrong.

    edit. But having said that the weather during this stage was horrific and maybe the cold was causing him problems. Yates and others said it affected them (but clearly not Fuglsang or Poels)
    Last edited by coldash; 06-16-2019 at 05:41 AM.

  19. #19
    RoadBikeReview Member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Posts
    6,776
    Quote Originally Posted by coldash View Post
    Quintana’s attack was a bit reminiscent of his performance in the 2017 Giro in that he can accelerate, get a gap but he just can’t maintain it. He seems to have lost his stamina. It’s a bid sad but I don’t think he’ll ever fulfill his early promise. Hope I’m wrong.

    edit. But having said that the weather during this stage was horrific and maybe the cold was causing him problems. Yates and others said it affected them (but clearly not Fuglsang or Poels)
    It looks like he can ride with leaders and bridge into some key breakaways, but he can’t ride away from people much anymore. He used to look like Bernal does now, almost unmanageable and relentless in the high mountains. Now, while he is still a threat to get the occasional stage here or there or a top five in week long races, he just doesn’t look dominant.
    Every climb has its end, for verily with difficulty there is relief...

  20. #20
    RoadBikeReview Member
    Reputation: KoroninK's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    2,216
    I'm very happy to see Tejay get onto the final podium of this race. Does that mean I think he can do anything at the Tour, no. However, I'm happy for him for this race.

    I really think at this point the only conclusion with Quintana that he is declining and that 2015 was his best chance to win the Tour. Unfortunate for him in the 3rd week Movistar made the decision that Valverde's podium spot was more valuable to them and that they owed Valverde that podium. Quintana has lost his ability to maintain an attack. I don't think he ever had that killer instinct. It also appears that he may have become complacent as well as he's a huge hero in Colombia and it doesn't appear that he does as much training, although he may it just appears that way.
    Nice overall win for Fuglsang. No idea if he can truly contend for the Tour title.

  21. #21
    RoadBikeReview Member
    Reputation: PBL450's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    4,232
    TJV had a great race. Good, I’m happy for him, he does well with the pressure off. But Sep Kuss is the real deal in terms of up and coming USA riders I think. He crushed Utah. Jumbo Visma and Bora have built amazing teams on rider development. So impressed with both teams and EF has been disruptive, nice, good work, they are improving. I’m a little confused about Jumbo Vismas talent allocations, but my typical Mitchelton Scott fan self can’t help but also root for them. Fuglsang is a class act. He is dangerous even if he is older. He’s a bigger guy that can climb, like Wiggo. I love the rider so pardon my bias, I hope he’s a factor in TdF!! 2019 was a good race but it lacked real intensity from GC climbers. Yes, they want to be on form for TdF but it’s been break away year so far... GC hopefuls have been incredibly measured. Boring almost. That said, it is obvious that there some very effective DS out there right now and that makes watching rider development very exciting! It’s a little like college football... yes Ineos grabbed stages, but teams with a fraction of that budget are challenging, which I think is great for the sport! BTW I read Katisha has the 2nd highest payroll behind Ineos? Damn. That’s not working out.
    To date, philosophers have merely interpreted the world in various ways. The point however is to change it.

  22. #22
    RoadBikeReview Member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Posts
    6,776
    Quote Originally Posted by PBL450 View Post
    TJV had a great race. Good, I’m happy for him, he does well with the pressure off. But Sep Kuss is the real deal in terms of up and coming USA riders I think. He crushed Utah. Jumbo Visma and Bora have built amazing teams on rider development. So impressed with both teams and EF has been disruptive, nice, good work, they are improving. I’m a little confused about Jumbo Vismas talent allocations, but my typical Mitchelton Scott fan self can’t help but also root for them. Fuglsang is a class act. He is dangerous even if he is older. He’s a bigger guy that can climb, like Wiggo. I love the rider so pardon my bias, I hope he’s a factor in TdF!! 2019 was a good race but it lacked real intensity from GC climbers. Yes, they want to be on form for TdF but it’s been break away year so far... GC hopefuls have been incredibly measured. Boring almost. That said, it is obvious that there some very effective DS out there right now and that makes watching rider development very exciting! It’s a little like college football... yes Ineos grabbed stages, but teams with a fraction of that budget are challenging, which I think is great for the sport! BTW I read Katisha has the 2nd highest payroll behind Ineos? Damn. That’s not working out.
    I like what Jumbo Visma is doing as well, but I think they played their best GC cards at the Giro with Roglic this year. I think he’s still their best GC option at this point. EF definitely has some promising young talent. Really disappointed that Dani Martinez got hurt before the TdF. I feel like he could have had a breakout party this year. Higuita is a real talent as well. Looking forward to continued development on that squad for sure. Agree Bora’s young German guys are intriguing. I am interested in seeing which one ends up the number one GC guy. It’s starting to look like Buchmann might be the guy. Pogacar from UAE looks like a star in the making as well. The Wolfpack always bring life to the party too, so their should definitely be some fireworks in the next two grand tours.

    As primarily a Classics and Ardennes fan, I typically just take this part of the season in and enjoy myself as best I can. I don’t usually have a dog that is really in the fight per se, but I would like to see the Americans, EF, and Kwiatkowski, Alaphilippe, and Sagan, etc. do well. I am keeping an eye on Bahrain too. I think they are about to shake up the sport some and really challenge Ineos starting next season. Expecting major signings from them in the offseason.
    Last edited by Rashadabd; 06-16-2019 at 07:04 PM.
    Every climb has its end, for verily with difficulty there is relief...

  23. #23
    RoadBikeReview Member
    Reputation: KoroninK's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    2,216
    Currently, as far as I can find only Katusha and Ineos have budgets over 20 million and both are over 30 million. The rest are at or under 20 million. Movistar's is basically just above the average for teams.
    I'm happy for Fuglang that he got the overall win. He's having a very good year this year.

  24. #24
    RoadBikeReview Member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Posts
    900
    Very happy to see Fuglsang get the well deserved win.

    What with the motos with two front wheels? They're not trikes, I think they're called Catamarans around here. Fugly and unsexy. A quick googling shows favorable reviews, though. Anyway, hats of to both the drivers and the cameramen (who are probably standing up on those things half the time) to deliver us the goods.

  25. #25
    RoadBikeReview Member
    Reputation:
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Posts
    6,776
    Quote Originally Posted by ogre View Post
    Very happy to see Fuglsang get the well deserved win.

    What with the motos with two front wheels? They're not trikes, I think they're called Catamarans around here. Fugly and unsexy. A quick googling shows favorable reviews, though. Anyway, hats of to both the drivers and the cameramen (who are probably standing up on those things half the time) to deliver us the goods.
    They have been using a lot of adventure motorcycles in races due to their ability to ride effectively on both road and dirt at high speeds. This is one of the styles that’s out there.

    https://www.cycleworld.com/making-se...wo-front-ends/

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ET_1-azxFUo
    Every climb has its end, for verily with difficulty there is relief...

Similar Threads

  1. Critérium du Dauphiné Libéré Stage 6: Official Thread. Spoilers etc.
    By uzziefly in forum Pro Cycling - Tour de France
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 06-12-2009, 08:19 AM
  2. Critérium du Dauphiné Libéré Stage 5: Mont Ventoux. Spoilers etc.
    By uzziefly in forum Pro Cycling - Tour de France
    Replies: 65
    Last Post: 06-12-2009, 05:49 AM
  3. Critérium du Dauphiné Libéré Stage 4: Official Thread. Spoilers etc.
    By uzziefly in forum Pro Cycling - Tour de France
    Replies: 25
    Last Post: 06-10-2009, 06:16 PM
  4. Critérium du Dauphiné Libéré Stage 3: Official Thread. Spoilers etc.
    By uzziefly in forum Pro Cycling - Tour de France
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 06-09-2009, 03:40 PM
  5. Critérium du Dauphiné Libéré Stage 1: Official Thread. Spoilers etc.
    By uzziefly in forum Pro Cycling - Tour de France
    Replies: 27
    Last Post: 06-09-2009, 05:28 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

THE SITE

ABOUT ROADBIKEREVIEW

VISIT US AT

© Copyright 2019 VerticalScope Inc. All rights reserved.