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    New Ritchey Swiss Cross Cyclocross

    How come there's been no mention in this forum of this? It looks like a beauty!! Is this slated for production or is it a 'concept' bike that was developed for the show? Any details? Expected cost? Made where? Release date? I'm glad to see Ritchey may be coming back to the frame business with something other than BABs.
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    It's going to be a production frame. Here's some more pics of our new frames we're coming out with. There's a P-29 in the works.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnpro...7626036886669/

    These bikes were fillet brazed by the man himself, Tom Ritchey. I'll be sure to post more info about these as we solidify things. Right now the Swisscross is expected to be available some time in August while the P-29 is still unconfirmed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritchey_Dave
    It's going to be a production frame. Here's some more pics of our new frames we're coming out with. There's a P-29 in the works.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnpro...7626036886669/

    These bikes were fillet brazed by the man himself, Tom Ritchey. I'll be sure to post more info about these as we solidify things. Right now the Swisscross is expected to be available some time in August while the P-29 is still unconfirmed.
    How will they be sold? Built up or F&F? Also, what price range are they targeting? The reason I ask is that I have a friend who is looking for a bike. He's on the order of 250lb or so and the bit of extra strength of a cyclocross bike over a road bike would be good. The ability to accept wider tires would also be helpful.
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    Frame and fork only right now. The Swisscross will most likely be around $1,299. It'd be perfect for what your friend is looking for.
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    Very Good! I'll pass the word. Going to head up to Taipei later this afternoon for the Bike Show. I'll be there for a couple of days. Is there a big crew from Ritchey this time?
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    There should be most of our Asia office there, however they won't have the frames. The only in existence are here in the US right now.
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    Dave, is that color final, and will it come with the WCS (all-carbon) fork? Will geometry match the BA cross? Will numbers be limited? I would like to pre-order, prob in a couple months. Will QBP be getting any? Or should I go to someone like Bike Doctor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mudrock
    Dave, is that color final, and will it come with the WCS (all-carbon) fork? Will geometry match the BA cross? Will numbers be limited? I would like to pre-order, prob in a couple months. Will QBP be getting any? Or should I go to someone like Bike Doctor?
    Pretty final, it's going to be a slightly brighter red. The geometry is going to be similar to the Breakaway Cross frame, but there they'll be slightly more customized for each particular size. Numbers won't be limited, however there is talk of Tom Ritchey himself constructing a run of frames. Those will only be a small limited quantity. Ritchey Design isn't taking preorders for the frames but I'm sure many shops will. The production frames will be available both online and through local bike shops.
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    Dave, does Ritchey have any plans to offer the option of a steel fork for the new Swiss Cross frameset? If not, I'd like to encourage you to do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scorbutico
    Dave, does Ritchey have any plans to offer the option of a steel fork for the new Swiss Cross frameset? If not, I'd like to encourage you to do so.
    I love a nice matching steel fork as well, however, at the moment the plan is to spec them with carbon forks. The whole concept of this frame was to make a cyclocross race frameset. The new Swiss Cross is meant to be a viable option for competitive cyclocross racing. Not to mention we think our carbon cross forks are the cat's meow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritchey_Dave
    I love a nice matching steel fork as well, however, at the moment the plan is to spec them with carbon forks. The whole concept of this frame was to make a cyclocross race frameset. The new Swiss Cross is meant to be a viable option for competitive cyclocross racing. Not to mention we think our carbon cross forks are the cat's meow.
    You ever smelled the Cat's Meow? Whoa.......
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    Have you?
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    It ain't pretty...
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    Ritchey fork, stem, headset, bars and seatpost
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    "Cat's meow" doesn't translate to: ultra lightweight, superior handling, full carbon racing machine???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritchey_Dave
    "Cat's meow" doesn't translate to: ultra lightweight, superior handling, full carbon racing machine???
    Depends...

    ..on whether or not someone is just pulling your carbon seatpost, or not...
    2016 Ritchey BreakAway (carbon)
    Full Campagnolo drivetrain - Chorus 11sp (50, 34 & 12-29)
    Zonda wheels
    Lezyne Super GPS w/Cateye speed/cadence & HR sensors
    Ritchey fork, stem, headset, bars and seatpost
    Fizik Arione VSX saddle
    Cinelli bar tape

    BeBop Pedals

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    Dave,
    How will my shop be able to order the frame? Will it be through QBP or will it be directly through Ritchey? Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by olbmtb52 View Post
    Dave,
    How will my shop be able to order the frame? Will it be through QBP or will it be directly through Ritchey? Thanks!
    Initial sales will be done directly through Ritchey.
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    Where can i Find more info like geometry?

    Will it be available in Europe?

    Cheers,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatboy66 View Post
    Where can i Find more info like geometry?


    Will it be available in Europe?

    Cheers,

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    Yes, they will be available in Europe.
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    Thank you for the information.

    When will they be available. I rode something about august?

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    They're a little delayed, and will be available mid October.
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    Hi Dave - can you tell us about the bottom bracket drop on this frame?

    All the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NextTime View Post
    Hi Dave - can you tell us about the bottom bracket drop on this frame?

    All the best.
    Our new SwissCross will have a BB drop of 63mm, which is slightly higher than our current Break-Away CX bikes (65mm) but lower than European-style CX geometry.

    Road frame BB drop is usually around 70mm. Most traditional ‘Euro-style’ Cyclocross geometry features a quite high BB (57-60mm) for increased pedaling clearance, the tradeoff being less cornering stability and a taller saddle height (in relation to the ground, a factor for remounts).

    Our BB drop is on par with what many North American custom builders use for US CX race bikes, and also a bit more suitable for all-around CX bike use should you choose to ride your cross bike beyond the race season.
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    From the geometry table it would appear that cyclo-cross bikes have shorter top tubes, is this correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zacolnago View Post
    From the geometry table it would appear that cyclo-cross bikes have shorter top tubes, is this correct?
    shorter top tubes than..?
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