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    how to loosen a stuck spoke from the nipple?

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    i have a flat spoke that is stuck. I tried to use a plier to hold the spoke while turning the nipple, but the spoke is stuck. I already tried putting a drop of chain lube in the nipple, no luck loosening it. Maybe WD-40 is better? Let's hear some ideas please.

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    Are these 'Mavic' wheels??? ha!
    .... I would get some penetrating oil @ the autozone and let it sit for a night.
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    Penetrating lubricant, not oil, is going to work better. It's thinner and is made to break up corrosion. Warm up the spoke/nipple with a hair dryer.

    https://www.homedepot.com/p/Blaster-...6-PB/205178591

    Are you trying to salvage the spoke? A pliars is going to chew it up pretty good with how hard you're going to have to turn it. A good spoke holder will help.
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    yes i'm trying to salvage the spoke if i could. Already chew up the spoke a bit (but not too bad) with the plier thing. I do have a spoke holder, but apparently the spoke is so stuck that it got twisted a bit at the transition region where its "flat" part meets the round part. Looks like it's off to Home depot for some penetrating lube.

    btw, trying to true an mtb rear wheel that only has 24 spokes, and this stuck spoke is the obstacle.

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    A little solvent, and heat the nipple with a cigarette lighter until it is very warm to touch. That usually works for me.

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    ok, the spoke is twisted about 90deg right at the junction between the flat part and the round part. So, is this still a usable spoke? Spoke is made of steel so I'm guessing it is still good? Should I untwist it? (assuming that I can loosen it from the nipple).

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    If I was in the middle of Kansass, I would use it to ride back to civilization. If I was in my garage, that spoke is history.
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    Snip it and replace with a new spoke and nipple.

    Is this the same wheel you said in another thread that you're looking to replace?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lombard View Post
    Snip it and replace with a new spoke and nipple.

    Is this the same wheel you said in another thread that you're looking to replace?
    yeah same wheel that I was considering of replacing, until I was quoted a price of $500 (ughh), and that's a cheap price for a carbon wheel.

    Then I thought, why don't I try to save the current wheel and ride it until it's completely trash, then buy a new bike! I don't feel like it's a wise investment to be putting $500 into a rear wheel on 27.5er with 142mm rear spacing, when everything is moving toward 29er and 148mm spacing.

    The current wheel is not bad, it's light and fast, and it's actually great for XC climbing. My only complaint is that it goes out of true more then I'd like. The trails around here definitely demand a 28h rear wheel minimum to be solid. Current one is only 24h. And after awhile, you want reliability over lightweight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aclinjury View Post
    yeah same wheel that I was considering of replacing, until I was quoted a price of $500 (ughh), and that's a cheap price for a carbon wheel.

    Then I thought, why don't I try to save the current wheel and ride it until it's completely trash, then buy a new bike! I don't feel like it's a wise investment to be putting $500 into a rear wheel on 27.5er with 142mm rear spacing, when everything is moving toward 29er and 148mm spacing.

    The current wheel is not bad, it's light and fast, and it's actually great for XC climbing. My only complaint is that it goes out of true more then I'd like. The trails around here definitely demand a 28h rear wheel minimum to be solid. Current one is only 24h. And after awhile, you want reliability over lightweight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aclinjury View Post
    yeah same wheel that I was considering of replacing, until I was quoted a price of $500 (ughh), and that's a cheap price for a carbon wheel.

    Then I thought, why don't I try to save the current wheel and ride it until it's completely trash, then buy a new bike! I don't feel like it's a wise investment to be putting $500 into a rear wheel on 27.5er with 142mm rear spacing, when everything is moving toward 29er and 148mm spacing.

    The current wheel is not bad, it's light and fast, and it's actually great for XC climbing. My only complaint is that it goes out of true more then I'd like. The trails around here definitely demand a 28h rear wheel minimum to be solid. Current one is only 24h. And after awhile, you want reliability over lightweight.

    Your post tells me you already know the answer to your dilemma.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aclinjury View Post
    yeah same wheel that I was considering of replacing, until I was quoted a price of $500 (ughh), and that's a cheap price for a carbon wheel.

    Then I thought, why don't I try to save the current wheel and ride it until it's completely trash, then buy a new bike! I don't feel like it's a wise investment to be putting $500 into a rear wheel on 27.5er with 142mm rear spacing, when everything is moving toward 29er and 148mm spacing.

    The current wheel is not bad, it's light and fast, and it's actually great for XC climbing. My only complaint is that it goes out of true more then I'd like. The trails around here definitely demand a 28h rear wheel minimum to be solid. Current one is only 24h. And after awhile, you want reliability over lightweight.
    SMH. 24 spokes is low for a rear wheel that will be dealing with the abuses of mountain biking. IMHO, it is asking for trouble. I build wheels with no less than 32 spokes on the rear wheel even for a road bike.

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    Spoken like a true retro-grouch.
    Hey, I resemble that remark!

    I really don't think 27.5 wheels with non-boost hubs are going the way of downtube shifters anytime soon. But hey, if you are looking for an excuse to buy a new bike, who am I to stop you?

    Here are a couple of choices for a rear 27.5 mountain bike wheel which are both $370. Not sure which type of brakes you have. These are both 6-bolt:

    https://www.competitivecyclist.com/s...NjQ2F0MTAwNDYz

    https://www.competitivecyclist.com/s...NDYXQxMDA0NjM=
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lombard View Post
    SMH. 24 spokes is low for a rear wheel that will be dealing with the abuses of mountain biking. IMHO, it is asking for trouble. I build wheels with no less than 32 spokes on the rear wheel even for a road bike.



    Hey, I resemble that remark!

    I really don't think 27.5 wheels with non-boost hubs are going the way of downtube shifters anytime soon. But hey, if you are looking for an excuse to buy a new bike, who am I to stop you?

    Here are a couple of choices for a rear 27.5 mountain bike wheel which are both $370. Not sure which type of brakes you have. These are both 6-bolt:

    https://www.competitivecyclist.com/s...NjQ2F0MTAwNDYz

    https://www.competitivecyclist.com/s...NDYXQxMDA0NjM=
    Stan's Flow is nice, like the 29mm internal width, a bit heavy but not a deal killer. Thanks for the links!

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    Quote Originally Posted by aclinjury View Post
    Stan's Flow is nice, like the 29mm internal width, a bit heavy but not a deal killer. Thanks for the links!
    Just noticed the Flow wheel is only available with SRAM XD freehub. The Arch is available with standard Shimano/SRAM freehub or SRAM XD.
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    some good news.

    1) After using that Blaster spray and letting it sit overnight, I'm finally able to turn the nipple loose.

    2) but instead of trying to true the wheel further using zipties while it's in the frame, I've decided to bring it to a shop, and the tech there true it further all taking less than 5 minutes. Yep, he turned like 8 times total and my wheel is now trued to within .5mm.

    (And the shop didn't even charge me).

    I'm a berrry berry 'appy camper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aclinjury View Post
    some good news.

    1) After using that Blaster spray and letting it sit overnight, I'm finally able to turn the nipple loose.

    2) but instead of trying to true the wheel further using zipties while it's in the frame, I've decided to bring it to a shop, and the tech there true it further all taking less than 5 minutes. Yep, he turned like 8 times total and my wheel is now trued to within .5mm.

    (And the shop didn't even charge me).

    I'm a berrry berry 'appy camper.
    Good luck with that wheel. But if it's still a problem and you're looking for a budget new wheel, here's a good option. BWW builds have a pretty good reputation:

    https://bicyclewheelwarehouse.com/MT...tom-Build.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by duriel View Post
    .... to be continued.
    haha we'll see how long it'll stay in true

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lombard View Post
    Good luck with that wheel. But if it's still a problem and you're looking for a budget new wheel, here's a good option. BWW builds have a pretty good reputation:

    https://bicyclewheelwarehouse.com/MT...tom-Build.html
    thanks good to know!
    i'm hoping the current wheel will last me 2 more years (even if i have to true it annually).

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    Quote Originally Posted by aclinjury View Post
    thanks good to know!
    i'm hoping the current wheel will last me 2 more years (even if i have to true it annually).
    And they even have a few sales as Opus noted here:

    https://forums.roadbikereview.com/wh...ml#post5472249
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    Quote Originally Posted by duriel View Post
    .... to be continued.
    Sometimes, if a single spoke comes loose, all you need to do is give it enough turns to bring its tension up to snuff and the wheel gets true and things hold up fine. It depends.

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