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    Quote Originally Posted by pmf View Post
    I guess I'm generalizing from a small sample size. My wife has a set of wheels that were built on tubeless ready rims (I didn't realize they were tubeless when I had them built). It's a bear to get tires on and off the rims. Not that my Campy Neutrons are any better. The HED Belgium rims are easy.
    Some tire/rim combos can be a bear, especially when tires are new.

    I highly recommend one of these. It'll get any tire on with little effort.
    https://www.amazon.com/Kool-Stop-Tir...bike+TIRE+JACK
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    Quote Originally Posted by tlg View Post
    Some tire/rim combos can be a bear, especially when tires are new.

    I highly recommend one of these. It'll get any tire on with little effort.
    https://www.amazon.com/Kool-Stop-Tir...bike+TIRE+JACK
    Does it fit in a seat bag? I found these wide Park tire levers that work pretty well.

    I still much prefer getting a flat on the HED rims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pmf View Post
    Does it fit in a seat bag?
    No, it's not really a travel tool. Could stick it in a jersey pocket. But it's more for home use.
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    Hello once more. I eventually bought Fulcrum zero racing with ceramic bearings.
    They costed me 780€ with bikeshop work included.
    It happened after i gave up on idea of replacing my stock wheels for Emonda 6SL.
    My feelings are, they are noticably stiffer than original ones. I think they might be even a bit faster for me if, that is big IF, a bit of speed has not came with the fact of more km's in legs this year...i think i can hold speed easier and accelerate faster.
    Did about 300km's with them, but haven't really attacked my home climb yet, which might tell me more about climb difference's.
    Riding 25mm tyres is more comfortable than 23mm I've had before.
    The big difference I've noticed is MUCH improved braking power, which has surprised me completely and i really do like that "feature".
    Thank you all who invested your time to clear things for me.
    Life is good and i wish you all many happy rides :-)

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    Always nice when OP comes back to update thread, thanks to you as well.

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    The final few thoughts; with better wheels, I've made PB's on every single flat or hilly segment, although my power has decreased since previous attempts for about 5-10%!
    Wheels are second best upgrade (for me), right behind power meter.
    But it surprises me now, how come they put so bad wheels on a mid range bike...so bad, even i can notice improvement after upgrading with mid range wheels. Knowing that, i'd prefer getting 105 instead Ultegra and having better wheels on new bike.

    Cheers from Primoz Roglic homeland, Slovenia :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ROOTS View Post
    The final few thoughts; with better wheels, I've made PB's on every single flat or hilly segment, although my power has decreased since previous attempts for about 5-10%!
    Wheels are second best upgrade (for me), right behind power meter.
    But it surprises me now, how come they put so bad wheels on a mid range bike...so bad, even i can notice improvement after upgrading with mid range wheels. Knowing that, i'd prefer getting 105 instead Ultegra and having better wheels on new bike.

    Cheers from Primoz Roglic homeland, Slovenia :-)
    Hard to say why some decisions are made. I'm guessing marketing departments (bean counters) calculated that most customers would rather see shiny Ultegra components on a new bike than better wheels.
    "With bicycles in particular, you need to separate between what's merely true and what's important."-- DCGriz, RBR.

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    Interesting. I would have voted for the Dura Ace C24s. Terrific climbing wheels though a bit flexy for a bigger rider like me (185 lb). I’m now on Roval CLX 35s which are awesome on descents and cornering and have terrific rigidity but are a hair less comfortable and a hair slower uphill.


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