Review: Glory Cycles Custom King/Belgium+ (Black/Black!)build
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    Review: Glory Cycles Custom King/Belgium+ (Black/Black!)build

    Since the proper reviews department is more than a wee bit behind-the-times (cough gregggggg cough) I figured I’d give this its own thread in here.

    Preface:
    Everyone has been abuzz about wide rims lately and even more so about the HED Belgium rims as the archetypical (heh, sorry) wide rim. So much so that many wheelbuilder sites I asked through the course of this project are out of stock of these rims, HED actually no longer even lists them on their storefront as of a few weeks back. That being said there aren’t that many reviews of any of these builds/builders and none as far as I know showing the black Belgium+ in its full glory. So we’re going to fix all that in this thread now.


    A shoutout to Clive and Patrick and the crew at Glory Cycles for cooking these babies up for me. For disclosure as well as a bit of a plug, if you want to see their ordering page and pricing it is here:
    Hed C2 Belgium Chris King R45 Custom Wheelset




    It started with a list of wants from me:
    -wide format rim was thinking HED or H Plus Son Archetype (or maybe just buying Boyd)
    -tubeless compatible either naturally or with some layers of tape. One of the roadie mates locally has been bragging his tubeless Fulcrums up and I wanted to see what all the fuss is about if not use them tubeless full time
    -No bizzarro-proprietary-impossible-to-get-ahold-of-spokesthat cost $10 each and take 3 weeks of shipping to get
    -Need Campy compatible
    -I’ll be honest I wanted a bit of bling, either Chris King or White T11s. Life is too short to be without Shiny….And I’ve been drooling over King hub’d wheels for my Campy bikes since before they made Campy compatible hubs (very recent all things considered).

    **For perspective last set of rims I bought were in 2006 a pair of Campy Zondas radial 16 front 21 rear G3, 30mm rim deep profile IIRC and 19mm wide…that served their miles for the last 8 years well but due to the G3 minimal lacing in the back and some rather craptastic roads aren’t that, well, round anymore though still laser true, and due to lack of spoking around the rim not much of anything can be done about it.

    (continues post 2, pics are coming, yes ;)
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    From there I did some shopping online. And some more shopping…. I’ve ordered from Glory Cycles before for individual parts once or twice (handlebars and some other odiments IIRC). And when I saw their pricing on a Belgium+ and CK build, my eyes lit up. Originally was shopping White Industries T11, but I do love the CK bling…and the price for my CK build was what a T11 build would be from some of Glory’s competitors. So Buy Now was clicked.



    What got spec’d out?
    Black/black HED Belgium+. 28 radial front, 28 2x rear CX-Ray. Red CK R45s. Red spoke nips. Also in the package I got their Stan’s tubeless kit with valves*. Also also got Enve Ti skewers while I was at it.

    With all those accessories total came to $1260 shipped UPS ground (don’t mind confessing as the above form-page will generate a similar quote for you now)


    *sidenote I already had a pair of generic Stan’s tubeless valves on hand …but decided what the hell, for the price and since I needed tape anyway…as will be seen, I’ll be happy I did.

    Heard back within 24 hours of ordering (Yay for prompt replies!) they needed to order in stuff so lead time to ship would be 2-3 weeks total (Boo! But such is life when you’re getting a custom service/product). Nothing to do but ride my damn bike more and wait.

    A week after ordering I did give a call to Glory to ask about the black/black Belgiums as I heard some folks list these rims as “disc-brake only”…the regular Belgium C2 black is a machined brake track that is painted over…whereas the black Belgium+ is anodized over. Clive called HED the same day and then called me right back said no worries that much mechanically, and eventually the black will probably wear off (something I expected).
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    Bling time. What came in the box? I found this sheet fun, the build list from Glory, note the tolerance spec as shipped listed for reference

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/xof6b9ybne...2015.57.34.jpg
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/5ixqexj0mb...2014.01.59.jpg

    Now the hoops themselves, I think they turned out damn well. Also note the matching red valve core and stem nut from American Classics I believe…didn’t ask for it, didn’t even think about asking for it, forgot about it-and got it anyway. Woot, I love mind readers!

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/agyft9rayl...2017.13.56.jpg
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/2yt0afy40n...2018.31.09.jpg
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/9indr7wp2c...2018.33.35.jpg
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/w5j6oxv7nc...2010.58.57.jpg

    Didn’t get any pics of the rim bed, sadly, as I was too damned excited…but the hoops came already taped, valves installed and ready for tire mounting. Getting Fusion 3s on is quite easy compared to Fulcrums says the roadie mate who brags about his tubeless who was helping yours truly the tubeless newb. Almost bare handable with good tire mounting technique (and the center channel these Belgium+ rim beds have for ease). Once on, and sealant in, tires didn’t even need a burp to seat they just inflated with a floor pump right up to leak test pressure and then to full. And they’ve held air quite well overnight too. Translates into rockstar tape job Glory ;)
    Enough talk, more bike porn:

    How’s the ride; and more importantly unimportant things like, I don’t know, braking?

    Ride is much better compared to 25mm tires @95PSI tradition clinchers on my Zondas vis a vis to 23mm Fusion 3 tubeless at 95PSI. I sadly in excitement didn’t do the scientific thing to try traditional clinchers/tubes first then tubeless since the wheels came all set for tubeless out of the box to really see how much of the difference is rim profile and how much is really tubeless. Any old surface feels much smoother to ride on (chip seal, sidewalks, MUT, rough asphalt parking lots/shoulders). And as much of a skeptic as I was about the difference in rim profile altering tire shape, cornering is better and more confident even on my custom Seven.
    Sidenote, the graphics you see about wide 23-25mm format rims increasing effective tire size are indeed kosher. 23mm Fusion 3s measure IRL on Belgium+ at 25mm

    Braking…I need to play with brake toe-in more, but it is more than good enough for me and my plains riding for now. As of yet I don’t feel I can really lock the wheels in an emergency. Odds are high this will change with time as the black ano surface treatment smooths out and wears off over time (like I figure it will).
    The hoops are stiff. Much stiffer than the Zondas I came from…acceleration is better, climbing/accelerating out of the saddle is better and more confident. The trusty old G3 Zondas just feel kinda noodly in comparison They just want to go.
    Crosswind reactivity? Have yet to really have a chance to have a stiff one out here. With the riding I’ve gotten in so far, I don’t even notice crosswinds. Which may say it all.

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/iiuj379uw8...2011.00.47.jpg
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/fwlqqt655t...2016.03.04.jpg
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    Final thoughts:


    Finish? The black looks downright smexy for now. Odds are it will wear off, but so what. I’m using standard Kool-Stop brake pads/shoes as that is what the LBS stocks regularly. I’ve toe’d them up a bit for the time being so that the shoes don’t rub quite so bad on the edge of the rim logos that are printed a bit into the break track area (see photos about 1.5-2mm into the track)…something I think I can get away with as out here in flatland I don’t have that many frightening descents to do. Might change as I play around and ride them more.

    Minor sidenote…this probably applies to all Belgium rims…the finished surface is not paint-smooth, so if you ride limestone trails, expect the rims to grab that dust in the air and hold onto it until you give the rims good wash down.
    Important note…Maybe newer caliper brakes are different…but this 8 year old set of Campy breaks have to be opened up a damn long ways to make room for these 25mm rims compared to my 19mm Zondas. 25mm doesn’t sound that wide…but in practice it means loosening your brake cable bolt and opening wide.

    Color me a very pleased customer. I can honestly say I don’t think I’d do anything different out of this little order adventure. Great looking and great performing product. If you’re in the market, hit Glory up for a pair-they got your fix.
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    Nice review. Congratulations.

    I also own HED Belgium rims (built with Alchemy hubs), and although I've since purchased other excellent wheel sets (Dura Ace 9000 and Zipp 202 Firecrest), the HED Belgium custom wheels are the ones I would keep if I had to live with one set of wheels.

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    Thanks for the detail. I have wheels just like this. Got them from Clive as well. They do an UNREAL job. I could not be happier.

    Enjoy the wheels.

    Quote Originally Posted by Marc View Post
    Since the proper reviews department is more than a wee bit behind-the-times (cough gregggggg cough) I figured I’d give this its own thread in here.

    Preface:
    Everyone has been abuzz about wide rims lately and even more so about the HED Belgium rims as the archetypical (heh, sorry) wide rim. So much so that many wheelbuilder sites I asked through the course of this project are out of stock of these rims, HED actually no longer even lists them on their storefront as of a few weeks back. That being said there aren’t that many reviews of any of these builds/builders and none as far as I know showing the black Belgium+ in its full glory. So we’re going to fix all that in this thread now.


    A shoutout to Clive and Patrick and the crew at Glory Cycles for cooking these babies up for me. For disclosure as well as a bit of a plug, if you want to see their ordering page and pricing it is here:
    Hed C2 Belgium Chris King R45 Custom Wheelset




    It started with a list of wants from me:
    -wide format rim was thinking HED or H Plus Son Archetype (or maybe just buying Boyd)
    -tubeless compatible either naturally or with some layers of tape. One of the roadie mates locally has been bragging his tubeless Fulcrums up and I wanted to see what all the fuss is about if not use them tubeless full time
    -No bizzarro-proprietary-impossible-to-get-ahold-of-spokesthat cost $10 each and take 3 weeks of shipping to get
    -Need Campy compatible
    -I’ll be honest I wanted a bit of bling, either Chris King or White T11s. Life is too short to be without Shiny….And I’ve been drooling over King hub’d wheels for my Campy bikes since before they made Campy compatible hubs (very recent all things considered).

    **For perspective last set of rims I bought were in 2006 a pair of Campy Zondas radial 16 front 21 rear G3, 30mm rim deep profile IIRC and 19mm wide…that served their miles for the last 8 years well but due to the G3 minimal lacing in the back and some rather craptastic roads aren’t that, well, round anymore though still laser true, and due to lack of spoking around the rim not much of anything can be done about it.

    (continues post 2, pics are coming, yes ;)

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    Hi OP, congratulations to your purchase.

    How's the climbing performance with your new wheel set?

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    I have the Ardennes Plus CL build and concur with Marc. HED's 25mm rims are awesome.

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