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    Williams Cycling Blue Brake Pads - Company Closed?

    I have a set of Williams carbon wheels. When I bought them, they came with blue brake pads. The information stated that the Williams blue pads were specially formulated for their carbon wheels and not to us any other carbon brake pads with the wheels. My pads are getting worn and I wanted to order new ones. Low and behold, their site is gone. I cannot find the pads for sale anywhere. I did find an article from last year saying that the business was for sale.

    Curious if anyone knows about these blue pads and an alternative option. They look like the Reynolds blue pads, but I was told they are different.

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    You could try seeing if Keith Williams will connect with you on LinkedIn and see if he can answer the question himself...
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/keith-williams-5464916/

    My guess is reality is any carbon clincher pads will do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetdog9 View Post
    You could try seeing if Keith Williams will connect with you on LinkedIn and see if he can answer the question himself...
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/keith-williams-5464916/

    My guess is reality is any carbon clincher pads will do.
    Thanks for the response. I don't have a premium account, so I can't message his LinkdIn account. I requested to connect, but no response.

    I was guessing that any carbon pads will do too, since I'm not too worried about voiding the warranty...

    This actually got me thinking about a more concerning issue. The Williams Sixty Six freehub will begin to make noise after about a 1-2 year period. This happened to me before and Keith said I just needed a freehub. A new freehub fixed the noise both times it happened. Now I don't have anymore freehubs.

    Anyone know a compatible freehub for the Williams Sixty Six hubs?

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    I'm pretty sure that Williams wheels were made by Irwin Cycling. Look them up and see if they can help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by November Dave View Post
    I'm pretty sure that Williams wheels were made by Irwin Cycling. Look them up and see if they can help.
    Thanks! I checked out that sight and they have similar looking blue brake pads and their freehub (6/60) looks very similar. I've sent them a message to confirm and hope to place an order when they get back to me.

    I appreciate your response!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jspharmd View Post
    Thanks! I checked out that sight and they have similar looking blue brake pads and their freehub (6/60) looks very similar. I've sent them a message to confirm and hope to place an order when they get back to me.

    I appreciate your response!
    I'm not at all familiar with the freehub design, but I have to wonder whether the noise could have been fixed by a simple clean and lube. How many miles did these freehubs go before "needing" replacement?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerry Irons View Post
    I'm not at all familiar with the freehub design, but I have to wonder whether the noise could have been fixed by a simple clean and lube. How many miles did these freehubs go before "needing" replacement?
    Good question. When I finally figured out that the sound was coming from the wheel, I did the following:
    1. Checked spoke tensions
    2. Checked cassette
    3. Cleaned a re-lubed the axle, hub, and as much of the freehub I could

    Didn't fix the sound. That's when reached out to Keith Williams. I explained what I had done and he said it is the freehub, needed a new one. It fixed it instantly. The second time it happened the cleaning and re-lube worked for a few months, then it needed to be replaced.

    Not sure the number of miles, but it was over three or four years for both hubs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jspharmd View Post
    Good question. When I finally figured out that the sound was coming from the wheel, I did the following:
    1. Checked spoke tensions
    2. Checked cassette
    3. Cleaned a re-lubed the axle, hub, and as much of the freehub I could

    Didn't fix the sound. That's when reached out to Keith Williams. I explained what I had done and he said it is the freehub, needed a new one. It fixed it instantly. The second time it happened the cleaning and re-lube worked for a few months, then it needed to be replaced.

    Not sure the number of miles, but it was over three or four years for both hubs.
    When you say "needed to be replaced" what was the criteria for replacement? Was it loose (wobbly), was it binding, did it have a gritty feel when you spun it, or was it just the noise?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerry Irons View Post
    When you say "needed to be replaced" what was the criteria for replacement? Was it loose (wobbly), was it binding, did it have a gritty feel when you spun it, or was it just the noise?
    Just the noise. I went through everything trying to address the noise. It was a horribly load creaking. In the process of isolating the sound, I put the wheels on my wife's bike. She went for a ride before I could put her wheels back on. She said the sound was so annoying, she shortened her ride.

    I had to mechanics look at the wheels to see what they thought. They took the hub apart, but couldn't isolate the sound. When they did that, they cleaned everything and regreased it (even though I had just done that a week before). When they couldn't figure it out, they recommended that I ask the manufacturer. I contacted Williams Cycling and explained the sound and Keith just said, sounds like you need a new freehub. I got one and the sound went away.

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